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bisexualdemondean answered:
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Well, looks like it’s that time again to remind people why they changed it from MPD to DID, and why some people are against the label (not those /with/ the label). - Liberty
Well, looks like it’s that time again to remind people why they changed it from MPD to DID, and why some people are against the label (not those /with/ the label). - Liberty
Well, looks like it’s that time again to remind people why they changed it from MPD to DID, and why some people are against the label (not those /with/ the label). - Liberty
Today's Hot Question
Why are "endogenics" so against the DID/OSDD label?
They act like it's a death sentence-- something terribly disgusting that should be avoided at all costs.
They'll make every claim under the sun that's been debunked and scientifically proven to be false just to avoid the label. You can show them a dozen sources debunking their claim and they'll come back with a single source that has nothing to do with the conversation in a desperate hope to avoid being labelled as a disordered system.
Why? Do they realize how they make people that are trying to HEAL under those labels feel? Like pariahs and outcasts, dirty and "crazy"-- less than, because why are they having problems, but these other people aren't?
Are they desperate to feel right? People don't like being wrong, but accepting and acknowledging scientific facts and maturing your understanding of ANY topic isn't a bad thing. Being wrong doesn't make you bad. I wouldn't even say anyone is wrong so much as people are always "continuing to learn".
Are they afraid they'll lose their numerous special labels? I'm going to admit right off the bat that I'm not a fan of the number of absurd terms and labels being passed around the plural community. It's bordering on ridiculous at this point that there's scientific sounding terms for insanely specific things like, "nonhuman alters that are only attracted to people within the hosts head," or "fictives that are only attracted to other versions of themselves".
But I get it, people like having labels. Maybe it makes them feel special to describe themselves, maybe they appreciate having so many words to describe themselves. Even I can recognize that OSDD-1b isn't a real or accepted diagnostic label despite the fact that it resonates with me, but the DID/OSDD label isn't going to necessarily take those terms away.
Are they afraid of facing potential trauma in their childhoods? It can be very jarring and upsetting to realize that things weren't as perfect as you thought they were, or that you have scars from the past, but flat out ignoring trauma is not the way to go about things. The further you distance yourself from your trauma, the more you reinforce dissociative barriers and trauma responses will only worsen the longer they're neglected.
Or is it that they're afraid of being constrained by the label? If it's not something "else", something "special" and "unique" then they must accept that most of their claims and the "fun" aspects are invalid and non-existent. System hopping, gateways, walk-ins and walk-outs, that gaining a new alter every time they so much as relate to something isn't normal or healthy, or oftentimes even possible-- that some of the things they think make them multiple have nothing at all to do with it. That some of them, yes, might be faking it.
Fighting something as simple as the definition of "distress" (which they don't understand) allows them to keep all the things they love about being "multiple" under the pretense of being ~uwu special~, but in doing so, they're alienating anyone who needs genuine help and they're demonizing a label meant to provide a course of treatment for those who need and want it.
Just because you don't think you're impaired enough to need a diagnosis, doesn't mean you still don't qualify for it (hint, you do if you're actually experiencing true multiplicity), and doesn't give you the right to try to take it away entirely or demonize it, and the constant push for "inclusive plurality" is turning so many people away from finding their truth and getting much needed help.
Why would anyone reject the label of DID? Probably because of this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/saving-normal/201401/multiple-personality-mental-disorder-myth-or-metaphor
They changed it from MPD to DID to discredit all of us, because they didn’t believe any of us are valid in the first place. They’ve said so, themselves. - Pride
Tumblr discourse in a nutshell.
Someone: [says something inflammatory and factually incorrect]
Same someone: DNI anyone who disagrees.
Anonymous asked:
It’s illegal to pretend you have a mental illness, especially one that’s so dysfunctional and draining :). Any qualified professional will tell you that the only disorders that result in alters are DID or OSDD-1, and if you claim to be endogenic yet not have DID, then that’s a direct oxymoron and it mocks trauma survivors when you think this disorder is so quirky and fun and ~uwu valid~
non-trauma-headspace answered:
I normally don’t do discourse on this blog, but this anon thoroughly amused me with some of its claims, so here ya go.
1) Illegal where? Rofl. Definitely not where I live. Only if you’re pretending in order to avoid being convicted of an actual crime that you did commit. Which we’re definitely not doing.
2) Even if it were illegal, our whole point is that plurality isn’t by definition part of a disorder. So we’re by definition not pretending to have a mental illness. We’re insisting that we have others in our head, that those didn’t originate from trauma, and that this is independent of whether or not we qualify for a diagnosis of DID or OSDD-1.
3) Even according to the DSM, there’s plurality that ISN’T DID or OSDD-1 or else there wouldn’t be exclusion criteria. Plus it states that there’s a strong correlation to trauma HISTORY. Not trauma as a cause.
4) Several very qualified mental healthcare professionals have told many endogenic systems, including us several times, that we fit the criteria for OSDD-1b EXCEPT for the essential criteria of it causing distress or dysfunction. So we’re by criteria A, plural. By not meeting the distress/dysfunction criteria, not disordered.
5) Most endogenic systems are ALSO trauma survivors. Including us. We have a diagnosis of PTSD from late childhood trauma. It just isn’t what caused us to be plural. And we have the right to believe that.
6) None of us without DID or OSDD-1 claim to have “alters”. That’s a purely DID/OSDD-1 term. We are plural. We have other people/minds/identities that we share a body with. Of course if you ask, “What disorders cause alters” the answers you’re going to get are the DISORDERS that cause ALTERS. You’re asking a leading question. Instead, you need to ask about all the different ways that someone can experience having other minds in your head with you.
7) We’re not acting like it’s “quirky”. It’s just the way we experience life. If that bothers you, you should probably talk to your therapist about that. And they’ll probably tell you not to worry about what other people do. Just focus on your own wellbeing.
You’re still valid. But so are we. Have a nice day.
~Baby Bear
I’ve also never understood the whole “DID/OSDD causes alters uwu!”
That literally makes no sense. DID/OSDD isn’t a virus or a disease.
-Liberty




